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:Ok danke :) -- =/\= '''[[Benutzer:Roggan|Roggan]]''' == [[Benutzer_Diskussion:Roggan|Meldung]] =/\= 11:19, 24. Mai. 2007 (UTC)
 
:Ok danke :) -- =/\= '''[[Benutzer:Roggan|Roggan]]''' == [[Benutzer_Diskussion:Roggan|Meldung]] =/\= 11:19, 24. Mai. 2007 (UTC)
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So, nun habe ich die passende Stelle auch im Transcript/Drehbuch gefunden
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72  INT. BIRD OF PREY ENGINE ROOM- CLOSE - POWER CONSOLE        72
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                  (AS SHOT)
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                  Within a shielded sub-room, we can see through a window
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                  dilithium crystals. They are beautiful, but they're
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                  dim. WIDEN as Scotty tells Kirk and Spock:
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                                          SCOTTY
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                            They're giving out. De-crystallizing.
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                                          KIRK
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                            Give me a round figure, Mr. Scott.
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                                          SCOTTY
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                            Oh, twenty-four hours, give or take,
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                            staying cloaked. After that,
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                            Admiral, we'll be visible -- and
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                            dead in the water. In any case, we
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                            won't have enough to break out of
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                            the Earth's gravity, to say nothing
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                            of getting back home.
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                  Kirk scowls at the crystals.
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                                          '''KIRK'''
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                            I can't believe we've come this far
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                            only to be stopped by this!
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                                    (thinks)
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                            '''Scotty, is there any way dilithium'''
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                            '''can be re-crystallized?'''
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                                          '''SCOTTY'''
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                            '''Sorry, sir. We can't even do that'''
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                            '''in the 23rd Century.'''
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                                          SPOCK
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                            There is a 20th Century possibility.
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                                          KIRK
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                            Explain.
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                                          SPOCK
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                            If memory serves, there was a
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                            dubious flirtation with nuclear
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                            fission reactors resulting in toxic
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                            side effects. By the beginning of
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                            the fusion era, these reactors had
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                            been replaced, but at this time, we
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                            should be able to find some.
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                                          KIRK
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                            But you said toxic.
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                                          SPOCK
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                            We could rig a device to collect their
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                            high energy photons safely; we could
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                            then inject the photons into the
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                            dilithium chamber, causing crystalline
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                            restructure.... Theoretically.
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                                          KIRK
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                            Where would we find these
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                            reactors... Theoretically.
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                                          SPOCK
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                            Nuclear power was widely used in
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                            naval vessels...
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                  Kirk looks at him, thinking.

Version vom 24. Mai 2007, 12:48 Uhr

Warum wurde denn der erste Artikel über Gammastrahlung gelöscht? War da nich auch nur noncanon Zeug drin? Der jetzige Artikel is ja nur Theorie über Gammastrahlung. -- =/\= Roggan == Meldung =/\= 13:48, 18. Mär 2007 (UTC)

Jupp, bingo - genau aus dem Grund, damit nicht ein Troll hingehen und ihn einfach wiederherstellen kann. : [ defchris ] : [ comments ] : 14:07, 18. Mär 2007 (UTC)
Gamma radiation bietet einen schönen Überblick, was kanonisch ist (auch wenn der Artikel nicht vollständig ist). : [ defchris ] : [ comments ] : 14:25, 18. Mär 2007 (UTC)
Also muss der wieder gelöscht werden, oder?!? -- =/\= Roggan == Meldung =/\= 14:41, 18. Mär 2007 (UTC)
Genau, mach ich jetzt gleich. : [ defchris ] : [ comments ] : 19:12, 19. Mär 2007 (UTC)

"Gammastrahlung ist die energiereichste Strahlung die existiert. Sie hat auch die kürzeste Wellenlänge jeder möglicher Strahlung im elektromagnetischen Spektrum."

Diese Aussage ist falsch, Gamma-Strahlung geht defintionsgemäß bis 10^21 Hertz. Aufgrund der Quantenmechanik sind aber theoretisch Frequenzen bis 10^42 Hz möglich (1 geteilt durch Planck-Zeit). Siehe auch [1] --Mark McWire 08:32, 24. Mai. 2007 (UTC)

Re-kristallisieren

sagte scott nicht das man die kristalle nichtmal im 24ten jarhundert Re-kristallisieren kann?--Shisma Bitte korrigiert mich 08:06, 24. Mai. 2007 (UTC)

Das weiß ich leider nich, allerdings kann ich vielleicht was beitragen: es kann sein, dass die Info aus "Die TEchnik der USS Enterprise stammt". Dort steht: "Viele Jahre lang konnte es [das Diliziumkristall] nicht reproduziert werden...Erst die Durchbrüche in nuklearer Epitaxie (was immer das ist :) ) und Antieutetik (hä? :D ) ermöglichten durch Theta-Matrix-Kompositionstechnik mit Gammastrahlenbeschuß die Bildung von reinem synthetisierten Dilizium...."
Wenn es also wirklich dort her stammt, ist es non-canon. Ich hoffe, das hilft :). -- =/\= Roggan == Meldung =/\= 10:43, 24. Mai. 2007 (UTC)

Der zitierte Satz stammt sinngemäß von Scotty aus Star Trek IV auf die Frage von Kirk ob man die Kristalle wiederherstellen könnte.

Epitaxi ist Fachwort für geordnetes Kristallwachstum [2] Antieutektik ist Antieutektik heißt ganz einfach, dass die Legierung einen höheren Schmelzpunkt hat, als die Einzelkomponenten, ist gerade das Gegenteil von Eutektik [3]

--Mark McWire 11:13, 24. Mai. 2007 (UTC)

Ok danke :) -- =/\= Roggan == Meldung =/\= 11:19, 24. Mai. 2007 (UTC)

So, nun habe ich die passende Stelle auch im Transcript/Drehbuch gefunden

72 INT. BIRD OF PREY ENGINE ROOM- CLOSE - POWER CONSOLE 72 

                  (AS SHOT)

                  Within a shielded sub-room, we can see through a window
                  dilithium crystals. They are beautiful, but they're
                  dim. WIDEN as Scotty tells Kirk and Spock:

                                          SCOTTY
                            They're giving out. De-crystallizing.
                             
                                          KIRK
                            Give me a round figure, Mr. Scott.

                                          SCOTTY
                            Oh, twenty-four hours, give or take,
                            staying cloaked. After that,
                            Admiral, we'll be visible -- and
                            dead in the water. In any case, we
                            won't have enough to break out of
                            the Earth's gravity, to say nothing
                            of getting back home.

                  Kirk scowls at the crystals.

                                          KIRK
                            I can't believe we've come this far
                            only to be stopped by this!
                                    (thinks)
                            Scotty, is there any way dilithium
                            can be re-crystallized?

                                          SCOTTY
                            Sorry, sir. We can't even do that
                            in the 23rd Century.

                                          SPOCK
                            There is a 20th Century possibility.

                                          KIRK
                            Explain.

                                          SPOCK
                            If memory serves, there was a 
                            dubious flirtation with nuclear
                            fission reactors resulting in toxic
                            side effects. By the beginning of
                            the fusion era, these reactors had
                            been replaced, but at this time, we
                            should be able to find some.

                                          KIRK
                            But you said toxic.

                                          SPOCK
                            We could rig a device to collect their
                            high energy photons safely; we could
                            then inject the photons into the
                            dilithium chamber, causing crystalline
                            restructure.... Theoretically.

                                          KIRK
                            Where would we find these
                            reactors... Theoretically.

                                          SPOCK
                            Nuclear power was widely used in
                            naval vessels...

                  Kirk looks at him, thinking.
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